Official KaM Remake Ideas topic

[sado1]

I think exploring the map is part of the fun of KaM. Also it's no fun if you can always see exactly what your enemy is doing and what his defences are. Part of the fun and skill is guessing what your enemy has and making strategic decisions.

You don't understand. I don't want to see enemies' buildings and troops. I want to see the whole map but EMPTY. I want to see troops standing only where I scouted. In the places which I didn't scout yet, I want to see how default, empty terrain looks like - instead of just black color which I can see now.

I want it so I can plan MY buildings better - I want to see MY resources, not enemies' troops and buildings. Sorry, maybe I shouldn't had written about cheating, it confused you and you thought I was proposing to add to KaMR what the bad guys did with editor...

If you still don't get it, I can make a crappy mockup in Gimp, just tell me

[Da Revolution]

I don't like this plan...as Lewin said the exploring is a part of kam. If you reveal the map even without buildings you'll take a part of this away

[Lewin]

Yeah exactly it's fun to reveal the blackness of the map and slowly explore what comes next. If you could see the terrain ALL the time it would be very dull IMO and greatly take away from the aesthetics of the game.

I think it's great if learning the maps is part of the challenge of KaM. The second time you play a map you'll probably have a better idea of where everything is and plan things differently. It's like that in most games with fixed maps, including first person shooters. Learning new maps and adapting is just part of the skill.
To be honest I find it exciting when I play on a new map for the first time, I'm exploring everything and discovering a new world. Even if you glanced over the map in the editor you won't notice the small details until you play on it and interact with the map. It's part of the KaM experience and you can't take it away IMO

The problem with locating resources at the start is annoying, I think this could be solved by revealing a slightly bigger area around your starting position so you can see all of the main resources (stone, gold, iron) from the start, like To did in "Back in the Desert".

[Attyla]

Open for discussion

Split labourers into teams

Smart serfs from last relese are really super. And I have simple idea how to improve labourers too. Building should be builded by only as many labourers as stones and timbers are used. Imho more are not needed becaouse they work fast and they would only disturb each other. And posibility to build multiple workshops in same time will speed up economy grow.

[Darkaway]

I agree with him, but i think it should be the half of the adiction of the amount of the stones and timbers. Exemple: Farm - 3 stones, 4 timbers = 4 labourers. I think it is a really good idea..

[Da Revolution]

They do split up now already i think

[Darkaway]

Yes, but only if they are close to the other building, but almost always there are 9 on one building and 2 on the other, 5 in one and 6 on the other will be better, don't you think?

[Da Revolution]

hmm i like it the way it is, but i don't say it can't be improved

[Danjb]

Regarding the suggestion of the terrain being visible at the start of the game without units being visible - isn't that essentially what fog of war does? So perhaps options to control visibility (like in Age of Mythology, if anyone ever played that, or perhaps some other AoE games):

Black: ON / OFF
Fog: ON / OFF

Of course, these settings would be controlled by the host.

[Darkaway]

I think the way it is now is ok, it is too much work to do to change things like this, and it doesn't worth it...

[Kamil]

What do you think about the division of maps in tabs for 2, 4, 6, 8 players. Greater transparency and ease of search, especially if the map will increase.
And scrolling map with arrows, not just the mouse.

[Darkaway]

Yeah, it is a good idea, i think...

[Krom]

We plan to add columns into MP map selection and allow to sort by them, so you could easily pick #-players maps or **x** sized maps - just like in SP map selectio, but more compact due to space limitations.

[Kamil (GeTsUgA)]

Would not it be better if the builder of 'destroying' the tree, if I put the building? Better planning of the city.

[Jeronimo]

I will suggest this which I havent read in the long lists from first page.
Eliminate messages from empty houses.

1) At first I thought in implementing a "select type of messages" you want to be warned about, but now I think that it is just annoying and unnecesary to be bumped each 4 minutes about a house which doesn't have its worker.

2) You are battling and building up... the messages accumulate and you cant do much about it yet (tough you know you have to).

3) You have a Statistics section in the bar (number 3), which you can revise from time to time, to check that all houses have all workers making their duties. I often revise there if I miss something... like certain empty house. This is enough IMO.

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The other messages left are more important and less periodical: "Ore mines empty" (lazy worker) and "Troops starving".