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I played a coop game, and the replay doesn't work.

@Lewin, Krom

Have you guys been talked to about the current serf delivery to buildings? Even after the latest changes in RC3, there is still an annoying "bug." It's most noticeable at the start of the game when building the school. If you have a laborer start making a road, a serf will naturally go grab a stone for him. However, if the school's construction site has finished being leveled during that time, the serf going to get the stone will "change his mind" and take the stone to the school instead! This can be "devastating" if you have a laborer build a road adjacent to the school, for he won't receive his stone till all wares have been taken to the school, resulting in other laborers piling on top of the laborer waiting for a stone.

A minor bug I've found: SP menu kinda "remembers" last location that player played on. For example, when you play a map on location 4, after you leave that game and go to SP maps menu, first thing you see is this:

Also, I got this message at start of Bridge Disaster (SP):

It's the same for all Original Knights and Merchants SP maps.

It's more than annoying that the name of a downloaded save gets changed to 'downloaded'. Any chance to change it before the release? Alternatively, please let us change a replay's name in the replays menu.

Another thing: Could we please get another dedicated server for the RC? The Kam.net server lags like crap all the time :S

Hi, i move my script from smaller map to bigger map and i get this error. ( ive update position values so its fiting to new map)

and your script caused more than 65K house plans to be added/removed.

and your script caused more than 65K house plans to be added/removed.

wait...what is...65k? what kind of script is that?

Great thanks!
Maybe AI puts many plans in wrong places and increases the number xD

to be specific, that script cause that error:
it runs every 10 ticks. ive removed all other scripts to more precise
aHouse is each from array actions.getplayerallhouses

  Code:

procedure AddHouseBuildingProgress(aPlayer, aHouse: integer); var u: integer; begin if aHouse > 0 then begin Actions.HouseAddBuildingProgress(aHouse); //<< that little guy end; end;

@Lewin, Krom

Have you guys been talked to about the current serf delivery to buildings? Even after the latest changes in RC3, there is still an annoying "bug." It's most noticeable at the start of the game when building the school. If you have a laborer start making a road, a serf will naturally go grab a stone for him. However, if the school's construction site has finished being leveled during that time, the serf going to get the stone will "change his mind" and take the stone to the school instead! This can be "devastating" if you have a laborer build a road adjacent to the school, for he won't receive his stone till all wares have been taken to the school, resulting in other laborers piling on top of the laborer waiting for a stone.

This "changing mind" feature was implemented to improve efficiency. So if a serf decides to deliver coal somewhere, but when he has picked up the coal there is a much closer destination available, he will take the coal to the closer one. We could disable it for delivering to laborers, but are there any other cases where this feature is annoying?

Special rule to prevent an annoying situation: If we were delivering to a unit do not look for a better demand. Deliveries to units are closely watched/controlled by the player. For example if player orders food for group A, then after serfs start walking to storehouse orders food for closer group B. Player expects A to be fed first even though B is closer. Another example: School is nearly finished digging at start of game. Serf is getting stone for a labourer making a road. School digging finishes and the stone goes to the school (which is closer). Now the road labourer is waiting even though the player saw the serf fetching the stone for him before the school digging was finished. This "CheckForBetterDemand" feature is mostly intended to optimise house->house deliveries within village and reduce delay in serf decision making.

to be specific, that script cause that error:
it runs every 10 ticks. ive removed all other scripts to more precise
aHouse is each from array actions.getplayerallhouses

  Code:

procedure AddHouseBuildingProgress(aPlayer, aHouse: integer); var u: integer; begin if aHouse > 0 then begin Actions.HouseAddBuildingProgress(aHouse); //<< that little guy end; end;

Could you please send me this script/map which is causing the crash? (the code I quoted) Also tell me what players/locations you tested with. I'm surprised that just Actions.HouseAddBuildingProgress is enough to make it crash, and I would like to investigate it further and make sure the bug is properly fixed.

Did you notice that in RC3 it is possible to have a script draw a map nearly from scratch?

This one, for example, is a blank map that a script morphs into a copy of Across the Desert.

map

No units, buildings nor animals: this was just a proof of concept.

The performance of the script is abysmal though, so I set it to "print" one tile per Tick.
The performance is better, but it takes 51 minutes to fully "print" it.

P.S: I'm not crazy enough to do it by hand... I made a Dynamic Script that wrote this in my place, of course.