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Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 14:06
by woloszek
Haha Too bad that this quote comes from the "Paker Team"
I don't understand? Can you explain me what did you mean, Pawel? :rolleyes:

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 14:12
by Bence791
I guess he means paker's shameless copies from other maps. But that actually has nothing to do with woloszek, or am I mistaken, pawel?

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 15:02
by woloszek
I have not written on behalf of the team, but in own name. That's why I do not understand why he (Pawel95) referred to the whole team? Koczis nothing copied, accusing him nothing, he made another good map. So? :rolleyes:

Maybe first think, then write.

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 22:00
by pawel95
I have not written on behalf of the team, but in own name. That's why I do not understand why he (Pawel95) referred to the whole team? Koczis nothing copied, accusing him nothing, he made another good map. So? :rolleyes:

Maybe first think, then write.
Ok, you are in the Paker Team, so I accord to the copy of the team.

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 22:04
by woloszek
Which map is copied? Can you tell me? Copy of own maps, the most you can. We have option copy / paste. What a bulls... you wrote here... :O

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 22:11
by pawel95
Copy of own maps, the most you can.
You just understand the language, you are writting here? You said, Nice map koczis, looks like GoldenCliffs, so a joke about copying his own maps and make a new one, so thats Paker Team Style!

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 22:22
by woloszek
My English is poor like your Polish. First, you ask if you can join us, and then write some weird stuff.. I have written on own behalf, and the whole team - back off. I'm not going to clutter the topic a discussion with you ..

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 07 Aug 2013, 22:31
by pawel95
Haha stop that shit here please.

Re: koczis12's maps

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 07:16
by Bence791
woloszek, the best example is North Bridge. We didn't even have copy-paste, Paker still copied at least 50% of the map, from original maps. Not to mention there were other maps, back in the day, like that.

And the best one for copying your previous maps is The Same Rocks. It is the extension of Dark Rock.

Re: Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 08:58
by T*AnTi-V!RuZz
Play nice.

Re: Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 11:12
by woloszek
As for the map of North Bridge, it was his first map. Then there was not exist Paker Team. I talked to him then and now there's nothing copies of original maps. As for the map The Same Rocks, no problem, because there was not this map copied from others, but from his. I wrote only that the new map Koczis looks like an inverted map Golden Cliffs, which is probably all noticed - this had nothing to do with copyright, and therefore I don't understand this whole discussion ... :rolleyes:

Re: Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 11:21
by The Dark Lord
I like how you guys work together on maps, but the name 'paker team' gives someone too much credit and some others too few in my opinion. :P

Re: Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 13:28
by sado1
Yeah, same as TDL said. In my personal opinion, woloszek is far better mapmaker than Paker. Although, I am pleased to see Paker is improving his skills - The Journey looks far better than his previous maps, assuming he did that one alone. Also, for long time I thought that Paker doesn't listen to feedback at all, but it's also different nowadays, which is a good thing. On the other hand, if I was making a mapmaking team, I'd choose a name that wouldn't favor anyone in the team (so, no "sado team"). For me it'd be better if you ditched the whole PAKER TEAM name and either thought about a new one or didn't use a name at all.

@woloszek: I think that's what Pawel means. Dark Rock -> TSR is similar to Golden Cliffs -> Shadow Realm. (I don't think his post was useful at all though :P)

Re: Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 13:46
by woloszek
To change the name of a team, we talked a year ago, but (Paker said me) Lewin did not agree to change the name of giving a reason - everyone knows the team under the name PAKER TEAM and change it would not be good. Well ... :rolleyes:

Re: Paker discussion?

PostPosted: 08 Aug 2013, 14:18
by Bence791
Then go ragequit wolo :D ;)