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High cost, can counter sword fighters AND it's recruitable. Isn't that supposed to be the knight?
I mean don't forget that it's all about rock paper scissors.

High cost, can counter sword fighters AND it's recruitable. Isn't that supposed to be the knight?
I mean don't forget that it's all about rock paper scissors.

Well but on other side, it is rock paper scissors "Extended Version" Because they are better than knights(and than swordfighers).

However actually they are weak against Xbows/Archers... So this is everything ok with this KaM fighting theory.

And... just waraxe + recruit is to cheap for their performance.

I find producing waraxes a good solution, but... make only warriors.
Leave Barbarians for the campaign, that's where they belong. In multiplayer those half-naked Conan style brutes look out of place for me. And... just waraxe + recruit is to cheap for their performance.
However, warrior's look great, and waraxe+armour+recruit sounds fair.
More importantly, to balance things right, why not adding a bonus for ranged egainst those, to make it really paper, scisors - let them die like militias when under fire.
That way you'll keep them away form ranged, the way you keep cav away from pikes. Becouse in my opinion giving them full iron-armour bonus would be to strong, just couiting is as leather sounds fine.
Or.... prove me wrong, didn't barbarians and warriors have +1 HP like cavalry? If that is so... just cout it out, than we can leave iron armour bonus. They would be dying pikeman style under fire.

Few more notes about warriors - just make waraxes another option for weaponsmith, why adding new building for single weapon and unit.
And... if anybody want to play with sprites... why not changing warriors waraxes for two-handed swords? I find them more historicaly acurate than pure fantasy duble-sided axes.

Ah, on the other note, why not implementing vagabond? Just axe+horse+recruit. I find horses to precious to build them, if someone has horse and axe, probably they can easly get leather and shield for scout. But... why not give them a try. Just for diversity, and I don't see them imba in any way.

NO! Like i have said to TDL. It depends how much it will cost. So if one waraxe will cost like 5 iron and 2 wood or sth like that, I think they arent that cheap,are they?

I dont agree with alot of the points you mentioned above , but particularly with the one that says that they should be as weak as militia when under fire, I think they should be between axe fighter and lancer when under fire, if it has same resistance as militia against arrows, then it does not justify its cost.

Teach barbarians from civilized people? Oh please... Maybe from tactic side this would have sense, but this is really illogical.

I have no idea. I just think this proposition is not a good idea. That's all. I still think barbarians should be mercenaries.

I have no idea. I just think this proposition is not a good idea. That's all. I still think barbarians should be mercenaries.