Project KAM REMAKE

[Remake 2012]

I find in internet a interesting site. > http://www.kickstarter.com/

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Why not start the project on page remake and see how much can earn money?
Certainly injection of money contributed positively to the creation of for game: graphics, animations, buildings
Lewin/Krom/others what you say?

[sado1]

Kickstarter is for projects that need funding to survive. I doubt it's a good place for Remake, which doesn't need loads of money to be developed, doesn't really need new artwork made by paid artists, etc.

[Lewin]

We already have a donate button on our website. KickStarter just runs for a month or so and ends... so we'd only get donations for that time. I doubt it'd get us much more than our current donate button.
Thanks for the suggestion though

[FAN]

What about STEAM Greenlight?

[Lewin]

What about STEAM Greenlight?

Unfortunately we don't have any right to publish KaM arrests like images, sounds, etc. so that's not really possible. We could maybe talk to the publishers of KaM but i'm not sure they'd be interested, and they'd probably want control over the development process to some extent.
Also we'd have to get permission from everyone who has contributed to this project under the assumption that we're not making any money from their work (e.g. Translators, map authors, artists, etc.). Then there's the fact that we took translations and voice files from different publishers for each language so we'd need permission from them.

Krom and I are happy for the project to be open and free, we don't expect money although we wouldn't complain
Being on stream would give us a lot of advantages like automatic update distribution, server coordination, accounts, etc. which would be neat.

[Encaitar]

What about STEAM Greenlight?

Unfortunately we don't have any right to publish KaM arrests like images, sounds, etc. so that's not really possible. We could maybe talk to the publishers of KaM but i'm not sure they'd be interested, and they'd probably want control over the development process to some extent.
Also we'd have to get permission from everyone who has contributed to this project under the assumption that we're not making any money from their work (e.g. Translators, map authors, artists, etc.). Then there's the fact that we took translations and voice files from different publishers for each language so we'd need permission from them.

Krom and I are happy for the project to be open and free, we don't expect money although we wouldn't complain
Being on stream would give us a lot of advantages like automatic update distribution, server coordination, accounts, etc. which would be neat.

What you could do is writing a licence that states that if anyone wanted to contribute to the KaM Remake project, the rights of their work will be shared with you Lewin and Krom. That gives the advantage that all new material is already in your permission. Of course you still have to get permission from everyone whom did already contribute to the KaM Remake project (the permission of all the language files would be gained easy that way. As soon a any translator would give their new version of the String file, you would have their permission as well).

I think making the publishers of KaM interested is the hardest part, as there is little value for them for posting this project to Steam. However, by posting KaM Remake at Steam maybe KaM would become more known to people, which would lead to people buying copies of KaM.

[Krom]

Kickstarter idea could work in few cases:

- if we collect funds to buyout graphics/sounds/voice/music/title(?) assets from TopWare, but I'm not sure Topware will be interested in selling and neither if Kickstarter allows such project goals.
- or if we collect funds to hire professional artists and create a new game from scratch heavily based on KaM, but still different enough to avoid copyright issues, thats the right use of Kickstarter, but I'm not sure we can handle that nor if it will be as good as KaM seeing how much trouble we already have with simple warriors balancing.

[Remake 2012]

Another site like that (http://www.kickstarter.com/)

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[Shadaoe]

and what unique perks they’ll get for becoming contributors.

because they want the perks that are part of the campaign.

Problem :p (among others I guess)

[Lewin]

Indiegogo and Kickstarter both take a considerable fee on top of the small Paypal fee that is already changed. Donations through our own site means:
a) We only have to pay the small Paypal fee, so we get a larger percentage of the donations
b) People can donate in any currency supported by Paypal
c) There's no time limit, we can leave it there forever (kickstarter is usually a 30 day thing)
d) We don't have to set a target and reach it before we get any money (on kickstarter/indiegogo you don't get any money at all until you reach your target, and if the time runs out before you reach the target, the money is all refunded to the donors)
e) We don't have to give people anything like perks in return (we don't have KaM Remake tee-shirts or anything )

We might get a few more donations with a campaign through Kickstarer or Indiegogo, but I doubt it would be much more than on our own site. We still need people to donate, and I doubt we'll find more people on one of those sites compared to our own. Putting ourselves on those sites doesn't mean we instantly get hundreds of people donating to us, I doubt anybody other than KaM fans would donate. People will only donate to us if they have a reason to want to support us.

[Remake 2012]

I have an idea on these portals.
It was possible to start a campaign which would have to raise money for the creation of new buildings, units, additional graphics, new solutions.
In general, writing: to raise money to develop an existing project.

[FeyBart]

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How do I create a campaign?

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Can I raise money or contribute in my currency?

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You can really cook some delicious copy pastry!

Anyway, I wouldn't say KickStarter or IndieGoGo would be very realistic, seeing as we wouldn't need the money. I don't think anyone would donate anything.

[sado1]

Anyway, I wouldn't say KickStarter or IndieGoGo would be very realistic, seeing as we wouldn't need the money. I don't think anyone would donate anything.

Someone once said at the chat, that he hates when people say "we", when meaning anything related to development of KaM... and this sentence made me see his point. It's not "we" the developers. It's "they". Neither you, nor I, wrote a single line of code for Remake. So it wouldn't be right, in my opinion, if I said "we don't need the money". I know it's a mental shortcut, but it really would be better to say "Remake project doesn't need the money to make next significant developments". I hope you won't be mad at me sticking to such a small thing I agree with your point, there are donations by Paypal, if someone wants to give devs some money, they can do that.

[FeyBart]

(...)
Someone once said at the chat, that he hates when people say "we", when meaning anything related to development of KaM... and this sentence made me see his point. It's not "we" the developers. It's "they". Neither you, nor I, wrote a single line of code for Remake. So it wouldn't be right, in my opinion, if I said "we don't need the money". I know it's a mental shortcut, but it really would be better to say "Remake project doesn't need the money to make next significant developments". I hope you won't be mad at me sticking to such a small thing I agree with your point, there are donations by Paypal, if someone wants to give devs some money, they can do that.

I don't want to be rude, but this is kinda nitpicking. You understand what I mean, and you even agree with me, so I don't see why you're pointing this out. No hard feelings, really. It just bugged me somewhat.

[Ben]

Someone once said at the chat, that he hates when people say "we", when meaning anything related to development of KaM... and this sentence made me see his point. It's not "we" the developers.

I wonder who that was?

I think that you really shouldn't do this. Not only is sado's point true (you didn't write any code) but it really demeans the work of the actual Remake developers.