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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2009, 22:21
by Litude
What you need to remember is that source code release doesn't equal making the game freeware. There are still the game graphics, missions, sounds etc. that wouldn't be included.
id software have released the source code for pretty much all of their slightly older games and none of them are freeware.
PostPosted: 19 Mar 2009, 22:55
by MrcredsAlex
What you need to remember is that source code release doesn't equal making the game freeware. There are still the game graphics, missions, sounds etc. that wouldn't be included.
id software have released the source code for pretty much all of their slightly older games and none of them are freeware.
They can be imported if you own the game.
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2009, 07:28
by Litude
Guess I misunderstood you. I got the impression from your previous post that you thought ZuXXeZ wouldn't want to release the source code because they'd have to make the game free or something, hence you suggested that only people who own the game would have accessto the source code.
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2009, 07:38
by FallenLeader
this makes sense. keep the copyright to the name and graphics and such but free the code. is it possible?
maybe i should negotiate with them... just kidding, im not very good.
PostPosted: 20 Mar 2009, 13:10
by MrcredsAlex
Guess I misunderstood you. I got the impression from your previous post that you thought ZuXXeZ wouldn't want to release the source code because they'd have to make the game free or something, hence you suggested that only people who own the game would have accessto the source code.
I meant that the source should be included in the KaM cd.
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009, 21:20
by Greninho
I've got another idea for another petition. It's for the source code from the Net-Games server, they don't use it anymore...I think it's more probably they give the binary's server, source code, or/and reopen the server.
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009, 21:40
by Litude
I meant that the source should be included in the KaM cd.
Well, then they'd have to run a reprint and I think they have stopped producing the game CDs. Besides how often do you see game source code included on the CD of a commercial game? That's right, not often. Your average Joe simply won't have any use for it.
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009, 23:26
by MrcredsAlex
I meant that the source should be included in the KaM cd.
Well, then they'd have to run a reprint and I think they have stopped producing the game CDs. Besides how often do you see game source code included on the CD of a commercial game? That's right, not often. Your average Joe simply won't have any use for it.
Doesn't matter, when I make programs I include the source of them in their zip in a folder caled 'src'
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2009, 23:46
by harold
Good practice, but most commercial programs are created by companies that suffer from a lot of corporate paranoia
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2009, 06:52
by Krom
Every company has to make money from something, otherwise it's bankrupt. When you make money on something it's logical to protect from thefts.
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2009, 08:37
by FallenLeader
they dont protect well. and yes, average joe doesn't even know what the word "source" means. let alone using it in any computer term.
it roughly means origin, beginning, starting point? correct?
i suggest professional business brute force. but i tend to be an "answer me" type person. it'd cost way too much to knock on their door.
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2009, 13:22
by MrcredsAlex
I agree that average Joes are noobs.
However, why talk about them? Obviously there are some people that will look into the source and some who won't.
Every company has to make money from something, otherwise it's bankrupt. When you make money on something it's logical to protect from thefts.
Open source != freeware
Doesn't matter, when I make programs I include the source of them in their zip in a folder caled 'src'
... and the average Joe doesn't even know what it is
Still doesn't matter, because what about the people who DO look at the code?
We don't need the source anyway... decompilation... reverse engineering... diassembly... injection...
There are countries (like mine, Spain) in which I think it's legal even if the license doesn't allow you to
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2009, 13:35
by MrcredsAlex
Also, there are games, like Uplink (which pretends you're a hacker), which
sell a CD with the game for $16 and a CD with the code for $40.
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2009, 17:58
by merchant_992
Is there any possibility if they don't want to give us the source we could ask for the server for online gameplay. If someone can get a running server, maybe they wil get more money for the game.
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2009, 18:00
by FallenLeader
you want them to assist us in setting up like they used to have? instead of having to do the work that, i forget who, was trying to do to do something similar?
who would pay for the hosting?