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Fix mountains (Tiank)

Fix mountains (Tiank)

What?

I provoked AI by walking near them. Then that one troop chased me until it caught me. So, is it possible to make them not chase me around the map, but come back at their previous position after they chase me for some time/some distance?

1. Why most AI players don´t make ALL troops? Some players could make like 20 more soldiers but they made one soldiers per min for example (In MP after Peacetime the AI should make all avaible soldier once, or is that a bad idea ? )

2.) The AI player on east from Tiank´s town had stones and wood in his storehosue. Is there a reason why he stopped building?

Hello Paker, this is the first time I comment on your maps here. Just because I finally see some progress in your work so take that as a compliment I like the basic idea of this map. It's a balanced set up for all players so differences between skill level will be bigger than normal which is nice I think. Downside is that after a few games it could be boring to play on the same locations again and again. Still I think this map can be improved a lot so here some points from me.

Hello Paker, this is the first time I comment on your maps here. Just because I finally see some progress in your work so take that as a compliment I like the basic idea of this map. It's a balanced set up for all players so differences between skill level will be bigger than normal which is nice I think. Downside is that after a few games it could be boring to play on the same locations again and again. Still I think this map can be improved a lot so here some points from me.

for looks:
- try to hide places where you copied terrain, at some places I can still see sharp edges
- it looks better to use the 1st tile of coal in the editor for the edges of the coalfields (look at 174 205 or 32 189)
- try to use tile variation on your iron mountains (which doesn't contain iron) but especially on the stone mountains
- fix (or hide) tiles that are sharp or look unnatural like 224 193 or 209 179 and 201 214 for example
- try to use different stone details on the coalfields
- try to avoid straight mountains like 4 49 or 157 173 (I have seen way worse from you, so this is a minor point)
- think about elevating mountains more (unless you like to have them this flat)
- the waterfall (and the ground around, especially the eastside) in the middle is not elevated properly so it looks not like a good one should look like
- for sand there are 2 different tiles available you could use manually to make the middle sand area more interesting
- in some spots (like 187 183) I see the same dead tree spammed up to 7 times
- trees on mountains like 189 226 dont look natural
- trees like 166 1 are placed too much to the top of the screen


DONE

for gameplay:
- I'm worried that most people will play at the corners since it's too easy defend here
It Depends on the team.
- there is too less coal available near the iron and too much near the gold
I know.
- the starting resources are way too high to be a challenge (half food would still be enough)
I reduced a little
- places like 179 202 are supposed to be unwalkable I think, but still troops can walk through there
fix
- please consider to remove most of the crabs in the middle (they will block troops) I've never heard of a gg because of crabs but I believe it's possible here
I reduced a little
- the mines of some players can be attacked by shooting over the mountains
ehhhh I know :/Lewin it could forbid - a unit shoot through the mountains ... (if the mountains are only an obstacle. Otherwise when of any website is the increase can already shoot).
- like suggested, relocate storehouses to be as equal to each other as possible
No. Because the map will then be boring ... the only variety is such that at some locations is closer to gold on the other to the iron and the other to the center of the map.

I hope this is enough feedback to work with. Good luck, take your time and keep us updated please.
thx

To

A couple of notes:
-it's not a good excuse that Lewin could make mountains an obstacle for archers, for your inability to make the map properly. You should change the map. Just make sure every player has same problems (either make all players vulnerable to an attack, or make them all safe)
-you say "it depends on the team" but since I think this map really works well for FFA I am asking you to try to make it more equal also for corner locations.
-storehouses don't really have to be the same in my opinion. Just make sure every location are ok with wood and stone and the rest can vary.
-I dislike how every location's terrain looks same. You don't have to change locations to make them LOOK different. Just change terrain, and mountains elevation - you can leave the "layout" but still have the locations look less "copied".

We (well, I made the lobby then gone to spectate ) played an FFA, x2,5 speed, peacetime 40, 8 player game with some Teamspeak guys, and it was quite fun(ny). Check the replay in attachment.

Work in progress ...

I played it today with PAKER 1vs1 and I have to say that I liked it. Only two things I couldn't stand:
-too much copying
-only one entrance for corner locations is not enough (I agree with sado here).