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Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 18 Mar 2013, 08:28
by Krom
We could calculate the coverage with regard to walking distance and convert it to outline, then convert tile-based outline into UI outline and smooth/blur it a little to give a nice looks. All this is low priority in our todo list because of this - it needs a lot of math work and design mockups.
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2013, 14:04
by zaamoot
Maybe a small idea/frustation. I am pretty new and want to scroll through the differents map in MP. To select a map you need to click and select in the dropdown box (EVERYTIME). Navigation with the arrow key would be a lot easier.
It is a small suggestion, but i registered just to post it

. This will give a indication of the level of frustration as a player unknown to the maps.
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2013, 05:30
by Ben
If we could sort maps by author, one would easily be able to find all the good maps.
Woah, did I really just post that?
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2013, 06:29
by Krom
@Ben: no, you didn't post that and I didn't saw it

Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2013, 20:33
by The Dark Lord
Since we have quite some new multiplayer maps again, might it be time to delete some low quality or unpopular maps from the Remake again? Just to keep the list a bit clean and Remake's included maps more professional.

Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2013, 20:35
by dicsoupcan
Since we have quite some new multiplayer maps again, might it be time to delete some low quality or unpopular maps from the Remake again? Just to keep the list a bit clean and Remake's included maps more professional.

b-b-but i just got a map into the remake
yes there are getting a lot of unpopular/low quality maps in the remake
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2013, 23:06
by Ben
Agree. The Dark Lord and I gratefully volunteer to go though and discuss what maps' authors need to be contacted in order for their maps to remain in the Remake
On a similar note:
@ Lewin: have you removed all my old maps from the Remake? I really don't want them included; I'm so ashamed of them

Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 02:18
by dicsoupcan
I have a simple (low priority) idea, to be able to place beacons in a replay. It can be used for educational purposes or pointing out some key events in video's.
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 02:58
by Lewin
Since we have quite some new multiplayer maps again, might it be time to delete some low quality or unpopular maps from the Remake again? Just to keep the list a bit clean and Remake's included maps more professional.

Agree. The Dark Lord and I gratefully volunteer to go though and discuss what maps' authors need to be contacted in order for their maps to remain in the Remake
Yeah probably a good idea. It would be great if you could make a list of maps that should be considered for removing and contact the map authors. I suggest you use this list to estimate popularity:
http://kam.hodgman.id.au/mapslist.php?rev=r4179
but remember that statistics can only tell you so much, and some maps might be fun to play but nobody has discovered them (people tend to play the maps which are perceived as popular)
@ Lewin: have you removed all my old maps from the Remake? I really don't want them included; I'm so ashamed of them

No I didn't, they're not exactly the worst maps in the Remake, but could certainly use some improvement. I suggest you consider them when making your list of maps to be removed, taking into account their popularity. Horseshoe certainly shouldn't be removed for one, it's 20th most popular.
I have a simple (low priority) idea, to be able to place beacons in a replay. It can be used for educational purposes or pointing out some key events in video's.
Added to the proposals list.
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 12:48
by K@T
Suggestions:
- Possibility of killing citizens for example if you make too much
- When you destroy the building, get wood and stone
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 13:03
by The Dark Lord
Proposed for deletion (by me, I'm sure Ben would like to share his opinion as well

). No mercy was granted! Here you go:
- Warfare in the Wilderness 8P
- The Passage 8P
- Game of Thrones 2
- Stranded 8P
- Oasis Struggle
- Battle Moon
- L-O-S-T Survival
- Frozen Canyons
- The Northern Province
- Lost Lands
Let me know if you want to delete more
Edit: it's amazing to see how Across the Desert and Wilderness are always equally popular.

Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 13:13
by Da Revolution
- Warfare in the Wilderness 8P
- The Passage 8P
- Game of Thrones 2
- Stranded 8P
- Oasis Struggle
- Battle Moon
- L-O-S-T Survival
- Frozen Canyons
- The Northern Province
- Lost Lands
I agree with this list except for WitW 8p, it might be better if you keep the 8 version but make clear somehow it can be played with 4p as well. Also Oasis struggle isn't such a bad map and maybe it should be updated a bit (player count reduced to 6 players).
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 13:16
by The Dark Lord
- Warfare in the Wilderness 8P
- The Passage 8P
- Game of Thrones 2
- Stranded 8P
- Oasis Struggle
- Battle Moon
- L-O-S-T Survival
- Frozen Canyons
- The Northern Province
- Lost Lands
I agree with this list except for WitW 8p, it might be better if you keep the 8 version but make clear somehow it can be played with 4p as well. Also Oasis struggle isn't such a bad map and maybe it should be updated a bit (player count reduced to 6 players).
Warfare in the Wilderness was never meant for 8 players, and it is one of the most unpopular maps so I see no reason not to delete it.

As for Oasis Struggle, I like that map too but there is no space for 8 players. It would be better for 4 players. And the map needs an over-all update, e.g. coal fields, maybe unlocking towers... Not sure. It's Ben's map.

Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 15:11
by Lewin
Suggestions:
- Possibility of killing citizens for example if you make too much
- When you destroy the building, get wood and stone
- Read this:
http://www.kamremake.com/faq/#kill
- I think there should be a penalty for destroying buildings, returning the supplies effectively makes it free.
@The Dark Lord: I mostly agree with that list. However, I'd love to see Ben update Oasis Struggle and make it for 4 players with towers unlocked. I also have some fond memories from The Northern Province and I'd be sad to see it go, even if it's a bit outdated now. I agree that deleting WiTW 8P is a good idea, we have enough 8P maps now and it's clearly unpopular (there's really not enough space for 8P).
Now that we have a lot of maps I think we should avoid having 8P/4P versions unless there's a very good reason. Maybe Border Rivers 8P should also be deleted? There isn't really enough space for 8 players there either, I originally made it because we didn't have any 8P maps when we first got multiplayer working

Anyone else want to comment on these things?
Re: Official KaM Remake Ideas topic
PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 16:02
by Da Revolution
Now that we have a lot of maps I think we should avoid having 8P/4P versions unless there's a very good reason. Maybe Border Rivers 8P should also be deleted? There isn't really enough space for 8 players there either, I originally made it because we didn't have any 8P maps when we first got multiplayer working

Anyone else want to comment on these things?
I think you should keep border rivers 8p, there is enough space for everyone.