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Ehm... I think it does harm gameplay significantly. But you can make a map with all buildings unlocked from the start.

No building tree= not KaM

Greatwhitebear, yes but i think no townhall=no kam but they don't interest sb,too!

No Town Hall = TSK

Yeah and TSK= No TPR
No TPR = No real KaM for me

Just shut up, Townhall isn't going to be implemented soon so deal with it.
Agree with you, but shut up.

Haha you are not my mum, shut the hell up and do not say this one to other people

Sorry, I am just tired of people discussing about if the townhall is like how we want KaM of like how we NOT want KaM.

I think they made it very clear that it will not be implemented (soon).

A lot of people (including myself) feel that TPR = no real KaM. And that opinion is just as valid as yours. Just because TPR is newer doesn't mean all of the changes are good. In 1998 did anyone complain "this game needs a town hall"? No they didn't. TSK was what we originally came to love and so why do we need to change that? This is a TSK remake with some features from TPR which do not subtract from the style.
I mean, should we throw away the whole design and recreate the game based on the KaM2 Princedom alpha, just because that's newer than TSK and TPR? It's the most recent release of KaM, so does that make it the best KaM out there?
If you want to play a game that is like TPR, then go play TPR!

And we haven't ruled out implementing the town hall in some form, but we certainly do not feel in any hurry to start thinking about it when there are so many other things to work on.

@pawel: I'm sorry if I (or the others) seem rude, but I have very little respect left for you after you created your SR3 hoax all those years ago. (not to be confused with Litude's amazing work on the REAL SR3) People do not forget things easily when you deceive an entire community like that for your own entertainment, claiming to be editing the game when are just creating mock ups in Photoshop. This might explain to you why a lot of us have very little time for you. Those who don't remember can read all about it here (German) or here (English Google Translated version) He claimed to have disassembled the KaM TPR EXE and fixed the multiplayer sync issues, enabled multiplayer against AI, fixed multiplayer saves and many other things. He referred to "his team" of people working on the patch. And he kept it up for months, then simply stopped posting until eventually everyone figured it out. I guess he just wanted attention, which he certainly got at the time because everyone was very excited about his promised changes.
I just thought you might like to know some of the reason why people have little respect for you or your opinions.

Didn't know that. Interesting.

How long have you been following the german fan site?

Since I found and joined the KaM community in 2007, about the time that this happened.

I three things to say:

W-O-W!

At first I was frowning a bit at the harsh reactions towards pawel.

Now I understand although props to him for sticking around to the community for all this time!

About the Town Hall, I personally never found it a good feature. It felt "cheap" to recruit powerful units with no more than a few chests of gold. I liked the units, but not the way they were recruited. I would much prefer them to be added in the barracks as normal soldiers, requiring the correct weapons and armor, than being able to simply hire them for gold.

I do understand that would take a load of work and I have no problem if this doesn't see itself added to the game. It would be nice, but not a dealbreaker.

I think townhall shouldn't be implemented soon but still, the vagabond should be trainable in the barracks.
I mean come on, an axe, a horse and a recruit=>should be barracks trainable.

Yes I think it would be cool if you could equip vagabonds at the barracks. It would probably mean we see more cavalry in online games which would be great. (currently they're rarely used)
There are only a few problems:
- The title Vagabond doesn't sound like a soldier of the king's army at all so it might need to be changed.
- The vagabond's clothes and attire make him look like a thief or raider.

Anyone have objections or comments on these?