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Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2013, 11:50
by Kirelareus
HmHm. 4 days left and no games?!
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2013, 16:01
by Kirelareus
Bludmaster - Nachtmahr
Golden Cliffs
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2013, 17:13
by Jeronimo
"Alien Message" from Blud vs Nacht match.
I think the victory is well deserved (despite the strategy employed).
Who was the real winner of this game?
The player who made less macro/micro mistakes.
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2013, 17:54
by pawel95
The player who made less macro/micro mistakes.
Ehm nope. In my opinion(by skipping many camping parts with x10) Blud had quite good micro. The problem was the first attack of Blud. Nachtmahr knew from the beginning what he is doing. The 9 wineyards and his buildingplacement shows, that he wanted to camp from the beginning and this was the strategy he could beat Bludmaster.
In this first attack from Blud, Nachtmahr had quite a solid position. He had like 2 or 3 bowmen groups placed in different directions(in his base), to shoot on bludmaster. Fighting in front of Nacht´s towers doesn´t help there also much. After that fight, bludmaster lost like all swordmen and had like one group of bowmen left.
Then I don´t know really what happend because there was like a hour of camping. Like at 02:30 Nacht first time got out "really" of his town and wanted to crush Bludmaster from 2 sides with mass bowmen and some axefighter+lances, but he failed. Like one hour there nothing happened again and at 03:00 Nachtmahr had again a big army and crushed bludmaster. Why exactly Bludmaster were crushed there, i dont know. Because blud had more recources and weapons produced and his Knight really helped him in situations, like Nachts Lances were on the way to catch Bluds bowmen. That was the only smaller advantage from Bludmaster. On the other side I am not sure also about the locations. I am not playing often KaM anymore, but just looking how hard it is to get in Location 1 to compare that with Bluds location, where from top you have a middlebig entrance, it makes also a difference, why Nachtmahr could camp at Location 1 for some hours.
So mistake of micro/macro?? Maybe "using wrong strategy is better" here, but how bludmaster could know that nacht will camp that much, so he did his normal iron and leather base for PT. Just watching at the played time, shows that it isn´t a normal game. >2 hours for a 1vs1 in Knights and Merchants aren´t really serious. So when you watched the replay, you should also saw that both ran out of gold and iron,which means that after that, the game is working strange^^ (Hard market using etc.)
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2013, 17:59
by Ben
I saw many micro mistakes from both sides. I'd like to take some more looks at the end of that replay and see why Blud lost. There was a point where his horses had a good chance at killing many archers; though.
Still, I don't think Nachtmahr should receive hate over his victory. He deserves it and I say gg to him for the victory, and gg to Blud for his aggression.
By the way, did Blud actually trade some wooden shields for wine barrels? Why...?
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 15 Nov 2013, 17:58
by Kirelareus
Information to ALL, who has lost in 1-st round!
You still participating in tournamnent! And you have only 2 days left!
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 15 Nov 2013, 18:45
by rom
I want to contact MadGamer and play
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 15 Nov 2013, 19:03
by sado1
I want to contact MadGamer and play
His nickname here is Smogon; also you should find him on TS.
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2013, 18:58
by Bludmaster
Ill write serious post when ill be back at home. For now why i lost? Because my base wasnt meant to be for more than 1:30 gaming. What i wanted to achieve was super stronng pt army with nice but not superior late game. So watch my pt army iam rly proud of it. Game is big mess tho.
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2013, 01:11
by Jeronimo
Ill write serious post when ill be back at home. For now why i lost? Because my base wasnt meant to be for more than 1:30 gaming. What i wanted to achieve was super stronng pt army with nice but not superior late game. So watch my pt army iam rly proud of it. Game is big mess tho.
It's fine Blud, there is no need of explanations. It was just 1 game...
In any case, you didn't know how to adapt your base once your Plan A failed.
That's why I personally think Natchtmahr deserved the win. Don't angry with me.
My situation: I tried to contact kvp192, but he is very busy... he is military (in service) so he mustn't have had free time to play these days.
I hope he connects tomorrow Sunday. It's our last chance to meet.
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2013, 05:06
by Smogon
I'm sorry Rom but most likely I'll not be able to play with you tomorrow, I have been really busy lately and had no energy to play even one game...But since you've been waiting for so long, I think you can get the win if you want.
'Tim
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2013, 11:22
by rom
Hi, im waiting now on TS , today is deadline to play , then what now?
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2013, 12:02
by Smogon
Hi, im waiting now on TS , today is deadline to play , then what now?
Depends what you want, you can take the win now, or wait one more day.
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2013, 15:20
by rom
I lost the game.
Re: Tournament “Building Map, all for one, 1-1, 60 pt”!
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2013, 15:47
by pawel95
I hope you didn´t tried your 23 towers tactic, because that isn´t a good way to win