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bug/glitch with roads

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 12:16
by mattheus
played my first online game today with some friends, and one of them trolled the enemy when he was defeated by spamming the enemy camp full with roads that would never be buids since he had no builders left. This stopped the enemy from building anything... sounds like something that is slightly unbalanced. maybe you can change this in the next patch that unbuilt roads/farmland/vineyard don't interfere with building by other players?

mattheus

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 14:39
by The Dark Lord
That's a ridiculous tactic and I'm surprised that your friend even enjoyed using it. It just ruins a game completely. It is indeed necessairy to fix this but please, teach your friend what fair play is in the meantime.

Edit: What's his name by the way? Then I can make a note for myself so I'll remember not to play with him.

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 14:46
by T*AnTi-V!RuZz
3 things:

1) I laughed my ass off :lol: . Even if it happened to me. But only for a short time, then it would get annoying. Either way, I think it's pretty smart of him :P

2) It should be fixed indeed, even when the 'match-end' screen is implemented. If the game continues when one's completely destroyed, he should go in some kind of a 'spectator-mode', in which he can't do anything.

3) @TDL: he can change his name anytime he likes.. There's no point in writing his name down..

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 16:15
by The Dark Lord
Of course he can, but most players use their name more than once.

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 17:23
by T*AnTi-V!RuZz
The Dark Lord wrote:Of course he can, but most players use their name more than once.

Of course they do, but not if they're 'black-listed'.

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 19:55
by GreatWhiteBear
I once defeated an enemy and made smiley's in his fields. but let him live.

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 01:39
by Lewin
Yeah this is a problem that needs to be addressed. You shouldn't be able to see each other's work plans, so theoretically every player could try to build a road on the same tile without even knowing. There are complications with that such as plans of other players needing to be canceled when one labourer starts work (including roads under a building site) and the fact that work plans are stored in the terrain matrix and there can currently only be 1 per tile. I'll discuss it with Krom some time.
Do you think allies should see each others plans? I think yes otherwise it'll be too hard to build connected villages.

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 07:52
by T*AnTi-V!RuZz
Lewin wrote:Do you think allies should see each others plans? I think yes otherwise it'll be too hard to build connected villages.

I agree.

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 12:20
by Danjb
Yeah, allies should see each other's plans, I think. Maybe even be able to delete each other's plans, if necessary?

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 13:07
by mattheus
yes, allies should see each others plans, this is also handy if you are trying to teach the game to someone, you can quickly show by making a bulding plan in his camp and then removing it ofcourse :P

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 16:01
by GreatWhiteBear
Or just make those X's on the ground be only visible and usable for the owner of those X's. All other players should just be able to ignore those X's.

PostPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 21:16
by Lewin
GreatWhiteBear wrote:Or just make those X's on the ground be only visible and usable for the owner of those X's. All other players should just be able to ignore those X's.

I disagree, I think allies really need to see each other's otherwise you will try to build at the same places and end up confused.
The players can just ignore the X's, but their client must still know they exist otherwise it won't know to send a labourer there. We rely on all clients running exactly the same simulation, and only user input is sent between clients.
It's also more complicated in the code because currently we have no way to store more than 1 X per tile. And workplans must be removed when they are no longer at a valid position (e.g. an enemy labourer has started to build a house there)

Re: bug/glitch with roads

PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012, 17:31
by caykroyd
is this going to be done, or everyone forgot about it? :lol:

Re: bug/glitch with roads

PostPosted: 21 Jan 2012, 00:02
by Lewin
caykroyd wrote:is this going to be done, or everyone forgot about it? :lol:

Yes of course, it's on the todo list but it's involves some major changes to the game. It's not something we can do overnight and there's a lot of other things we are working on or planning to work on at the moment.