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Post 17 Feb 2012, 13:02

PAKER TEAM Maps [MULTI]

New Maps:

The Same Rock_____________[eco] In the game
Clash_____________________[eco] In the game
A Clash of Kings____________[co-op] In the game
The kings Says_____________ [tactic] In the game


SOON:

City of Gold_________________________________[tactic]

Back To ....______________________[256x256]__[eco]
The Same Rocks 1.5_______________[256x256]__[eco]
New World Order (Remake)_________[192x192]__[eco]
Bad Mountains (Remake)___________[144x256]__[eco]

11.10.2012
fix Same Rocks ! [loc 5]
Last edited by Remake 2012 on 14 Oct 2012, 09:45, edited 54 times in total.
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GreatWhiteBear

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Post 18 Feb 2012, 23:31

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

What is this sorcery?
did you copy a lot from other maps?
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Lewin

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 00:51

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

I guess he just has a lot of free time. The terrain quality is not perfect on any of the maps, they all need improvement in my opinion. Tiles look square in some places and parts of some maps look unnatural. But it's great to see so many new maps and with improvements I hope we can include them in the next release :)
I'd appreciate if people can give specific feedback pointing out aspects of the terrain that can be improved to help these guys polish the maps.
Lewin.
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Remake 2012

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 08:27

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

What is this sorcery?
did you copy a lot from other maps?
I like the maps to the KAM do when playing on the network I got the idea that I will do the map which I would like to to play. The first map I made a few days after several hours. Now, the map sets can do 144x144 at up to 3 hours. 192x192 is a free Saturday. I have many ideas, I can think of offhand is the area the rest is folding and mushrooms (beautifying of the area).

I like to make map.

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Only two map is copy ( First - max 50% area, but area was hard modificed : D, Second 40% area, but... area was hard modificed.. too )
Other map 100% original project.
Last edited by Remake 2012 on 19 Feb 2012, 12:04, edited 1 time in total.
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The Dark Lord

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 11:30

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Perhaps you should rename 'Hard Mountain' to 'TPR 3'. Shamelessly copied, and I didn't even check the rest of the map.

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Remake 2012

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 11:50

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Perhaps you should rename 'Hard Mountain' to 'TPR 3'. Shamelessly copied, and I didn't even check the rest of the map.]
How do you show what is already copied to show the whole map ?!

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Shamelessly copied, and I didn't even check the rest of the map.]
"Shamelessly" copied on only 40% !
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The Dark Lord

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 12:25

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Yes, you modified it. And? It is still copied. You just stole someone else's work and presented it as your own. If GWB didn't start about the copy-thing you wouldn't have mentioned it at all. How would you feel if I copied your whole map, changed a little here and there and said 'Hey guys I made an awesome new map'?
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Krom

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 12:45

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Yeah, you should have named your sources in first place ...
Knights Province at: http://www.knightsprovince.com
KaM Remake at: http://www.kamremake.com
Original MBWR/WR2/AFC/FVR tools at: http://krom.reveur.de
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Remake 2012

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Post 19 Feb 2012, 12:59

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Yes, you modified it. And? It is still copied.
In information about the map to write that part of it comes from 'xxx' maps. And that's it.
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GreatWhiteBear

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Post 20 Feb 2012, 11:53

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

most maps are ugly as hell.
You totally screwed up elevation at many places.
Tiles are pointing the wrong way.
Tiles are misplaced.
I can make maps way faster too if I don't check them for flaws.
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The Dark Lord

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Post 20 Feb 2012, 14:53

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Well they aren't that bad. If he improves his elevation here and there they would be quite good. I just hate the copied maps.
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Lewin

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Post 20 Feb 2012, 20:53

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

If you copy part of someone else's work, you must cite it. Even if you only copied 1%, you must still give credit to the original creator because it's not your work.

I think the maps are ok but need improvement. I think he should stop making new maps and go back and spend a lot of time improving the maps he already has. At the moment they are mostly acceptable but certainly not high quality. We have a saying: Quality over quantity ;)
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Post 25 Feb 2012, 10:50

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

Janosiczek?
Is this you name? Or you mean that the maps are played in the time of janosczik (the movie from poland :D ) ?
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Lewin

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Post 27 Feb 2012, 07:52

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

I think you need to stop making new maps and improve the ones you have. You're already up to 17 maps, but most of them are lacking detailed quality in the terrain.

I would prefer 10 high quality maps than 100 poor-average quality ones.
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Remake 2012

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Post 27 Feb 2012, 10:15

Re: Janosiczek & PAKER : Multiplayer Maps

I think you need to stop making new maps and improve the ones you have. You're already up to 17 maps, but most of them are lacking detailed quality in the terrain.

I would prefer 10 high quality maps than 100 poor-average quality ones.
I know Lewin. Already finished doing the new map.

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