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Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 19 Apr 2018, 01:56
by tonc5
As a person who has played the original kam TSK on cd it seems like bow men have been nerfd. They just aren't as useful as they were in the original kam and sometimes they just don't seen to cut it anymore and I have to resort to crossbows which seem to have been buffed.

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 19 Apr 2018, 07:21
by thunder
HI Tonc5,

I guess there are several changes and differences between the original KaM and Remake. Probably can find answer to your question on the forum. :wink:

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 20 Apr 2018, 02:58
by Ben
Bowman and crossbowmen were far too powerful in original KaM. The remake balanced the fighting mechanics of the game quite a bit. That included making bowmen much weaker.

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 21 Apr 2018, 02:13
by tonc5
Bowman and crossbowmen were far too powerful in original KaM. The remake balanced the fighting mechanics of the game quite a bit. That included making bowmen much weaker.
I knew that bowmen were quite powerful in the original kam but i actually felt like crossbow men were a bit under powered sometimes loosing fights to other bowmen. Even so I never felt like they were overpowered. What caused this idea?

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 21 Apr 2018, 06:30
by The Dark Lord
The fact that they were? Anything died like flies to them.

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2018, 02:23
by tonc5
The fact that they were? Anything died like flies to them.
Units with iron armour would stand to them being able to take a semi reasonable amount of arrows or bolts before dying. But leather units would die pretty fast. But when you think about it, leather armour isn't very strong to begin with. Exibit A: https://youtu.be/472fNlfSQYU Exibit B: https://youtu.be/XMT6hjwY8NQ But that's just my personal opinion on the matter. I feel that they were over nerfed and now they are too weak.

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2018, 18:44
by The Dark Lord
The amount of resources iron units cost did by far not pay off compared to cheap bowmen. Moreover, if bowmen were really 'overnerfed' we wouldn't see them in the game at all, which is obviously not the case. Crossbowmen are more rare, that's true, but only because sword fighters/knights are now so much stronger, not necessarily because crossbowmen are much weaker.

Re: Have bow men been weakened?

PostPosted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:35
by tonc5
The amount of resources iron units cost did by far not pay off compared to cheap bowmen. Moreover, if bowmen were really 'overnerfed' we wouldn't see them in the game at all, which is obviously not the case. Crossbowmen are more rare, that's true, but only because sword fighters/knights are now so much stronger, not necessarily because crossbowmen are much weaker.
Actually that's another thing I noticed. Iron units in general have been buffed and it gives leather units more of an underdog feel.